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	<title>Comments on: When the Dogs Make Their Own Food, or, Bottom-up Agile Innovation</title>
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		<title>By: People Over Process &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Re: Just Say No&#8230; agile is simple, or, Escape from Your Ghettos, Suits and Coders!</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 00:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Dog-fooding is a hedge, but most dogs won&#8217;t eat the Gravy Train that is enterprise software. And while that might be an indicator of something being perniciously enterprisey, despite how tough it is to make, who don&#8217;t like gravy? [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Dog-fooding is a hedge, but most dogs won&#8217;t eat the Gravy Train that is enterprise software. And while that might be an indicator of something being perniciously enterprisey, despite how tough it is to make, who don&#8217;t like gravy? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Running as Root &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Year of the VM</title>
		<link>http://drunkandretired.com/2006/01/27/when-the-dogs-make-their-own-food-or-bottom-up-agile-innovation/#comment-2279</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2006 22:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] You can also keep copies of Windows 2000, Windows XP Pro, Windows 2003 Server, and different distros of Linux around for testing without dedicating an entire machine to each OS / product configuration combination. Using a VM to dedicate a machine to a product install also means it&#8217;s easier for people to eat their own dog food as Cote&#8217; is fond of saying. The IT department of my new company also uses VMs to run the Subversion server, the CruiseControl server, a maven proxy, and any number of other services. The VM has its own IP address so you can pick up and move the entire &#8220;machine&#8221; any time you want to re-arrange things. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] You can also keep copies of Windows 2000, Windows XP Pro, Windows 2003 Server, and different distros of Linux around for testing without dedicating an entire machine to each OS / product configuration combination. Using a VM to dedicate a machine to a product install also means it&#8217;s easier for people to eat their own dog food as Cote&#8217; is fond of saying. The IT department of my new company also uses VMs to run the Subversion server, the CruiseControl server, a maven proxy, and any number of other services. The VM has its own IP address so you can pick up and move the entire &#8220;machine&#8221; any time you want to re-arrange things. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Cote'</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 17:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[JP raised a good point that it&#039;s not always possible for the developers to eat their own dog food. Will developers really use SAP? A systems management app? This is true.

At the very least, you can hope that the company eats it&#039;s own dog food. At the best, you can hope that the developers will make software that fits market demand, but still is fun enough that they&#039;d want to use it. Of course, that second one is a dangerous line to walk down: navigating it poorly could result in software that doesn&#039;t sell.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JP raised a good point that it&#8217;s not always possible for the developers to eat their own dog food. Will developers really use SAP? A systems management app? This is true.</p>
<p>At the very least, you can hope that the company eats it&#8217;s own dog food. At the best, you can hope that the developers will make software that fits market demand, but still is fun enough that they&#8217;d want to use it. Of course, that second one is a dangerous line to walk down: navigating it poorly could result in software that doesn&#8217;t sell.</p>
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