perhaps gravitas could include a browser pride parade, where browser pride=”we don’t have to do crappy imitations of desktop guis -we don’t need sucky widgets -we seamlessly mix content and application -we want amazon.com not battleship gray forms -swing and winforms will go the way of the vt100″

which is why i like xaml so much (and worry about java’s lack of an equivalent) -i don’t see wpf/xaml as a widget markup language as much as an extensible browser

-yes indeed, charles should have any level of control over the textbox that he wants -which is another way of saying gosh darn but don’t we need a browser implemented in (and thus extensible in), java