In this episode, Charles and I sit on a Finish porch and talk about our trip in Finland so far.

Hey-o, hey-o! Episode 133 is up. This week Charles and I discuss in 15+ minute detail the process of (him) getting to Finland. I loves it!

Me having recently acquired an iPhone 3G, we talk about iPhonery for sometime and then jump into a discussion of Charles using the JavaFX Preview SDK. This drives us unto the swampy waters of discussing usability and UI work in open source and speculating out the different scenarios for what’s going on there.